OBSOLETE - VINTAGE 1930 ' S - 1940 ' S U. S. MARSHAL STAR & SHIELD
Item History & Price
| Reference Number: Avaluer:613743 | Modified Item: No |
| Type: Badge | Country/Region of Manufacture: United States |
THIS AUCTION COMPLIES WITH EBAY CURRENT POLICIES AND IS NOT PROHIBITED BECAUSE:
( EBAY REFERENCE # 1-220372808197 - 07/22/19 1650)
1. Both the seven point Star and yellow metal shield are OBSOLETE, VINTAGE and DO NO...T resemble in any manner or form the current issued shield used by the United States Marshals Service;
2. Pursuant to Ebay, Reference No. 1-220372808197, because both the seven point star and yellow metal shield are both obsolete and vintage, neither are prohibited from listing on Ebay;
3. The last time either the seven point star or yellow metal shield were used by deputy U.S. Marshals likely dates back to at least 1935, possibly up to 1941 when the Justice Department began issuing a standard badge that, like the previous 1941 issue and the last two issued in 1970 and again in 1980 are distinctly different shields that do not resemble in any manner or form the seven point star and yellow metal shield up for auction; and
4. Neither the seven point star or yellow metal shield up for auction are NOT of the design nor does either resemble any badge that is in current use authorized by the head of the U.S Marshals Service. (auction complies with 18 United States Code 701) Now that all the legal disclaimers have been made to ensure I don't get in trouble selling this badge, and you don't get into trouble buying it, be warned the auction is conditioned upon you not using the shield to impersonate any law enforcement officer. If you do, a sentence to imprisonment, a fine, or both could result. TIME TO DISCUSS THE SEVEN POINT STAR. DIMENSIONS: STYLE: Seven point star
SIZE: Approximately 3.00” in height and 3.00” in width. Weight: 1.20 ounces.
CONSTRUCTION/MATERIALS: metal-type: Unk
ENGRAVING: Black Enamel
ATTACHMENT: C catch.MARKINGS: LAS&SCO
CONDITION: USED, BUT NOT ABUSED - It looks old;YELLOW METAL SHIELD
STYLE: Shield - Eagle on top with a wreath border; ribbon on bottom of shieldSIZE: Approximately 3.00” in height and 2.50” in width.
Weight: 2.30 ounces.
CONSTRUCTION/MATERIALS: metal-type: Brass
ENGRAVING: Navy Blue Enamel
ATTACHMENT: Burgess catch.MARKINGS: NONE - (Label affixed on back: 1915; Dist NJ)
CONDITION: USED, BUT NOT ABUSED - It looks old.In a nutshell, the Star and Shield are probably at least fifty-six years old and up to eighty-four years old.
To support my opinion regarding both the age and authenticity of the Star I begin my analysis by pointing to the typeface that is stamped on the back of the shield, "LAS&SCO, " According to seasoned badge collectors, hallmarks on a badge are the starting point to verify whether a badge is legitimate and to facilitate determining a date of manufacture.
My research of the LAS&SCO typeface revealed that in 1935, after doing business under the name of the Los Angeles Rubber Stamp Company (LARSC), (making badges for law enforcement and fire departments since 1884), LARSC changed its name to Los Angeles Stamp and Stationary Company, replacing the LARSC typeface and affixing the typeface "LAS&SCO on all products sold." (See attached photos)
The company remained in business until 1964 when it filed for bankruptcy. The dies and materials were subsequently ordered sold by the Bankruptcy Court. (keep that date in mind because it may help to date the badge as set forth below)
Information retrieved from several purported experts on badge collecting revealed that a badge collector named A.B.C. Jones purchased some of the LAS&SCO inventory and old folklore has it that Jones then assembled parts of the badges and re-sold them. Who the badges were sold to is open to a wide range of opinions: deputy U.S. Marshals who wanted a different badge than the standard shield issued by the Department of Justice; badge collectors.
Moving forward to 1991, a couple federal law enforcement officers published a badge collecting book and identified A.B.C. Jones as a badge collector who began his collecting hobby in the 1930's and that his collection rivaled that of a museum. (See attached photo) There went one story that Jones was only a purveyor of parts badges.
Moving away from the experts, here is what I know about this badge based upon my personal experience!
The badge was purchased at a garage sale in Yucca, California while I was visiting my friend Dick Dale who lived nearby and a few months before he died. It was enclosed in a oak shadow box with other badges, wrapped with pages from Life Magazine dated August 30, 1963.
Inside the oak shadow box was a dark blue velvet cloth that the badges were attached to. (see attached photos) I did not know the badge was in the box as I was buying a batch of Rockwell plates that were wrapped in a large box.
If you recall as stated above LAS&SCO went bankrupt in 1964, so, it is quite possible that the person who acquired this badge obtained it at least a year BEFORE the bankruptcy sale? (the badge frame was wrapped in pages from Life magazine dated 1963)
On that note, the badge likely could have been owned by a badge collector or a marshal or other constable years before 1963. Bcause the badge shadow box contained several other badges, the person who owned this badge likely was a badge collector.
I am not a collector of badges so other than doing the research I shared with you, I have absolutely no use for the item. I am a capitalist, so would rather have five Benji Franklin's than the badge.
Because I am not a badge collector and I could find no books that set forth badge prices, I had no idea what the value of this shield is, so, to find an answer I looked at several other deputy U.S. Marshal shields on Ebay that have been posted in the past thirty days to find a price that I believe is more than fair; fair to me because my monetary investment is minimal and fair to you, a collector to own a vintage old lawman's badge. (Recent Ebay auctions of deputy U.S. Marshal shields and stars: 303232392565; 123837560217; 123821568421; 143303501050; 173962695603; 264392275803; 183857940411; 183857940016; and 123820312730).
We are on Ebay, not Saks 5th Avenue where there are no badges and also no haggling, so don't be hesitant to make an offer not far from the starting bid I'll won't be unreasonable, but neither should you.
If I intentionally misrepresented anything in this ad, return it!If you can help me date it, contact me and if the information is accurate, I will add it to the description.
Your task now is to do your due diligence. DON'T BUY THIS BADGE UNLESS YOU ARE 100% CONFIDANT WHAT IT IS. I don't know and I don't want you mad at me.
WARNING: This obsolete Deputy United States Marshals badge does not resemble any current issued law enforcement badge of any entity, and it is a historical piece to be displayed by collectors in a sealed case at home or office. The badge conveys absolutely no authority or law enforcement powers of any kind and if the purchaser uses it to convey such to anyone, pursuant to Title 18 USC 701, the person is subject to prosecution and under federal law can be found guilty of a Class B misdemeanor, facing a fine or imprisonment of up to six months. It is the buyer's responsibility to follow all local, state, and federal laws. By bidding on this item the buyer agrees to only use this item in a lawful manner, in other words placed in a display case on your wall or desk. You've been warned.(See U.S. v Jackson 754 F.3d 1116 (9th Cir. 2014); U.S. v Roe (575 F.Supp. 2d 690 (D.Md. 2008)
( EBAY REFERENCE # 1-220372808197 - 07/22/19 1650)
1. Both the seven point Star and yellow metal shield are OBSOLETE, VINTAGE and DO NO...T resemble in any manner or form the current issued shield used by the United States Marshals Service;
2. Pursuant to Ebay, Reference No. 1-220372808197, because both the seven point star and yellow metal shield are both obsolete and vintage, neither are prohibited from listing on Ebay;
3. The last time either the seven point star or yellow metal shield were used by deputy U.S. Marshals likely dates back to at least 1935, possibly up to 1941 when the Justice Department began issuing a standard badge that, like the previous 1941 issue and the last two issued in 1970 and again in 1980 are distinctly different shields that do not resemble in any manner or form the seven point star and yellow metal shield up for auction; and
4. Neither the seven point star or yellow metal shield up for auction are NOT of the design nor does either resemble any badge that is in current use authorized by the head of the U.S Marshals Service. (auction complies with 18 United States Code 701) Now that all the legal disclaimers have been made to ensure I don't get in trouble selling this badge, and you don't get into trouble buying it, be warned the auction is conditioned upon you not using the shield to impersonate any law enforcement officer. If you do, a sentence to imprisonment, a fine, or both could result. TIME TO DISCUSS THE SEVEN POINT STAR. DIMENSIONS: STYLE: Seven point star
SIZE: Approximately 3.00” in height and 3.00” in width. Weight: 1.20 ounces.
CONSTRUCTION/MATERIALS: metal-type: Unk
ENGRAVING: Black Enamel
ATTACHMENT: C catch.MARKINGS: LAS&SCO
CONDITION: USED, BUT NOT ABUSED - It looks old;YELLOW METAL SHIELD
STYLE: Shield - Eagle on top with a wreath border; ribbon on bottom of shieldSIZE: Approximately 3.00” in height and 2.50” in width.
Weight: 2.30 ounces.
CONSTRUCTION/MATERIALS: metal-type: Brass
ENGRAVING: Navy Blue Enamel
ATTACHMENT: Burgess catch.MARKINGS: NONE - (Label affixed on back: 1915; Dist NJ)
CONDITION: USED, BUT NOT ABUSED - It looks old.In a nutshell, the Star and Shield are probably at least fifty-six years old and up to eighty-four years old.
To support my opinion regarding both the age and authenticity of the Star I begin my analysis by pointing to the typeface that is stamped on the back of the shield, "LAS&SCO, " According to seasoned badge collectors, hallmarks on a badge are the starting point to verify whether a badge is legitimate and to facilitate determining a date of manufacture.
My research of the LAS&SCO typeface revealed that in 1935, after doing business under the name of the Los Angeles Rubber Stamp Company (LARSC), (making badges for law enforcement and fire departments since 1884), LARSC changed its name to Los Angeles Stamp and Stationary Company, replacing the LARSC typeface and affixing the typeface "LAS&SCO on all products sold." (See attached photos)
The company remained in business until 1964 when it filed for bankruptcy. The dies and materials were subsequently ordered sold by the Bankruptcy Court. (keep that date in mind because it may help to date the badge as set forth below)
Information retrieved from several purported experts on badge collecting revealed that a badge collector named A.B.C. Jones purchased some of the LAS&SCO inventory and old folklore has it that Jones then assembled parts of the badges and re-sold them. Who the badges were sold to is open to a wide range of opinions: deputy U.S. Marshals who wanted a different badge than the standard shield issued by the Department of Justice; badge collectors.
Moving forward to 1991, a couple federal law enforcement officers published a badge collecting book and identified A.B.C. Jones as a badge collector who began his collecting hobby in the 1930's and that his collection rivaled that of a museum. (See attached photo) There went one story that Jones was only a purveyor of parts badges.
Moving away from the experts, here is what I know about this badge based upon my personal experience!
The badge was purchased at a garage sale in Yucca, California while I was visiting my friend Dick Dale who lived nearby and a few months before he died. It was enclosed in a oak shadow box with other badges, wrapped with pages from Life Magazine dated August 30, 1963.
Inside the oak shadow box was a dark blue velvet cloth that the badges were attached to. (see attached photos) I did not know the badge was in the box as I was buying a batch of Rockwell plates that were wrapped in a large box.
If you recall as stated above LAS&SCO went bankrupt in 1964, so, it is quite possible that the person who acquired this badge obtained it at least a year BEFORE the bankruptcy sale? (the badge frame was wrapped in pages from Life magazine dated 1963)
On that note, the badge likely could have been owned by a badge collector or a marshal or other constable years before 1963. Bcause the badge shadow box contained several other badges, the person who owned this badge likely was a badge collector.
I am not a collector of badges so other than doing the research I shared with you, I have absolutely no use for the item. I am a capitalist, so would rather have five Benji Franklin's than the badge.
Because I am not a badge collector and I could find no books that set forth badge prices, I had no idea what the value of this shield is, so, to find an answer I looked at several other deputy U.S. Marshal shields on Ebay that have been posted in the past thirty days to find a price that I believe is more than fair; fair to me because my monetary investment is minimal and fair to you, a collector to own a vintage old lawman's badge. (Recent Ebay auctions of deputy U.S. Marshal shields and stars: 303232392565; 123837560217; 123821568421; 143303501050; 173962695603; 264392275803; 183857940411; 183857940016; and 123820312730).
We are on Ebay, not Saks 5th Avenue where there are no badges and also no haggling, so don't be hesitant to make an offer not far from the starting bid I'll won't be unreasonable, but neither should you.
If I intentionally misrepresented anything in this ad, return it!If you can help me date it, contact me and if the information is accurate, I will add it to the description.
Your task now is to do your due diligence. DON'T BUY THIS BADGE UNLESS YOU ARE 100% CONFIDANT WHAT IT IS. I don't know and I don't want you mad at me.
WARNING: This obsolete Deputy United States Marshals badge does not resemble any current issued law enforcement badge of any entity, and it is a historical piece to be displayed by collectors in a sealed case at home or office. The badge conveys absolutely no authority or law enforcement powers of any kind and if the purchaser uses it to convey such to anyone, pursuant to Title 18 USC 701, the person is subject to prosecution and under federal law can be found guilty of a Class B misdemeanor, facing a fine or imprisonment of up to six months. It is the buyer's responsibility to follow all local, state, and federal laws. By bidding on this item the buyer agrees to only use this item in a lawful manner, in other words placed in a display case on your wall or desk. You've been warned.(See U.S. v Jackson 754 F.3d 1116 (9th Cir. 2014); U.S. v Roe (575 F.Supp. 2d 690 (D.Md. 2008)
